Transfer to Yale after Straight A's Elsewhere?
Question:I am a high school senior, and Yale has always been my dream school. I have a high B average which I know isn't going to get me in, and my extracurricular activities are good but not amazing. I do attend a really prestigious prep school and could probably have a 4.0 if I'd gone to my local public high school, but I also know there are people in my class who have higher grades than I do who will be applying to Yale, so I'm not optimistic about my chances. So here's my question: If I attend another college and can get straight A's there, do I have a decent chance of being accepted to Yale as a transfer after my freshman year or is it better to try to get straight A's for two years and then apply to transfer?
I'll start with the bad news (which is pretty bad).Last year, Yale accepted about 2% of its transfer applicants ... a number that's markedly smaller than the puny 6% acceptance rate for freshmen.Candidates who are admitted as transfers to Yale commonly come from atypical situations. They are often non-traditional students (i.e., older) or hail from disadvantaged, underrepresented-minority backgrounds. In other words, they are students who probably wouldn't have applied to Yale at all straight from high school.
You don't say if you're a recruited athlete or a student of color, so I'm guessing that the answers to those questions are no and no. Thus, the fact that you have already had the opportunity to attend a snazzy private school will probably push you to the back of the transfer-admission line without some special “hook."You could bust your butt to earn straight A's for a year at your initial college, and it's unlikely to help your acceptance odds at Yale. If you work just as hard in your second year, your chances will not improve unless, perhaps, you can point to a really head-turning accomplishment during that time ... e.g., you publish a novel, you write a symphony that's performed at Carnegie Hall, or you pioneer a medical breakthrough ... curing cancer or, at least, baldness. ;-)
The good news, however, is that if you manage to maintain that 4.0 GPA (or close to it) throughout your college years, you may position yourself well for a second shot at Yale, via graduate school. The graduate acceptance rates are about as daunting as the undergrad ones are, but admission committees this time around will be most focused on your specific academic achievements in your field and won't care so much about who was president of the class, who played tuba in the marching band, or who can shoot 50% from the 3-point line.
The other good news is that, even if Yale is your “dream school" as a teenager, by the time you are 21 and have been successful at another institution, you may discover changing priorities and goals. As poet Robert Frost once said, “ ... way leads on to way."So the college choice you make next spring could eventually point you in a different direction, far from New Haven.
However, if Yale is indeed your dream, 'The Dean" does not want to discourage from applying this fall. I don't know enough about you to insist that you have no prayer. And even if you are certain, yourself, that your chances are minuscule, this may just been an itch you have to scratch before you can move on.
Sally Rubenstone
Sally Rubenstone knows the competitive and often convoluted college admission process inside out: From the first time the topic of college comes up at the dinner table until the last duffel bag is unloaded on a dorm room floor. She is the co-author of Panicked Parents’ Guide to College Admissions; The Transfer Student’s Guide to Changing Colleges and The International Student’s Guide to Going to College in America. Sally has appeared on NBC’s Today program and has been quoted in countless publications, including The New York Times, The Washington Post, USA Weekend, USA Today, U.S. News & World Report, Newsweek, People and Seventeen. Sally has viewed the admissions world from many angles: As a Smith College admission counselor for 15 years, an independent college counselor serving students from a wide range of backgrounds and the author of College Confidential’s “Ask the Dean” column. She also taught language arts, social studies, study skills and test preparation in 10 schools, including American international schools in London, Paris, Geneva, Athens and Tel Aviv. As senior advisor to College Confidential since 2002, Sally has helped hundreds of students and parents navigate the college admissions maze. In 2008, she co-founded College Karma, a private college consulting firm, with her College Confidential colleague Dave Berry, and she continues to serve as a College Confidential advisor. Sally and her husband, Chris Petrides, became first-time parents in 1997 at the ripe-old age of 45. So Sally was nearly an official senior citizen when her son Jack began the college selection process, and when she was finally able to practice what she had preached for more than three decades.